
It’s like living in a word without proper nouns. I’ve always wanted to make a campaign like this:
-Shamus, Wednesday Jan 10, 2007
Man, that’s funny to read knowing how much things have changed in the past sixteen-ish years since he wrote it. There’s a real split between the folks who use high-fantasy names and the folks who have a shopkeeper named Terrance in the town of Coolsville. I’ll just say, he was right in my book. It’s more fun to play and a lot easier to get invested in Terrance and his basement slime infestation than to try to remember an encyclopedia worth of names just to keep track of the plot. (For me, at least. I know there’s some folks who daydream about that hypothetical spreadsheet.)
Honestly there’s something to be said about the power that allowing people to get a bit silly can have when it comes to letting players get really genuinely invested in the world around them, instead of trying to strong-arm them into playing exactly the way you want to. If you haven’t heard people joke about it before, there’s a real phenomenon of serious high-fantasy campaigns being known for going off the rails into chaos. While games where someone has a character named Penny the Wise, a wizard who dresses like a clown, is more likely to end up with a high stakes chase across the country to stop the war that could end the world. The more control you have over your character and choices the easier it is to throw yourself into it, whether you really mean to or not.
Now D&D stuff aside, you may have noticed this version of the comic isn’t the 1-1 update we normally do. Our dad mentioned more than once that he really didn’t like how the formatting ended up here (I vaguely remember being used as a test subject for his attempts to make it more readable). The arrows were a bit of a band-aid for the problem he always meant to go back and fix. So I was recruited to mess with it so it didn’t need any arrows. Mostly it was just a matter of adjusting the pacing of the panels a little bit. He really didn’t technically do too much wrong.
English speakers tend to read left to right, so generally our eyes like to follow the same line. Like you’re doing now, left until you hit the end of the line and then down and left again. With the exception of, if, perhaps, they maybe put something colorful or interesting in the center to catch your eye. The same principal applies to other stuff too. You’ll notice a lot of billboard ads will favor putting larger blocks of text over on the left-hand side. And when they don’t do that sometimes it can feel just a little bit off, like you’re reading it wrong. The exception being when your eyes are being drawn along a path. Like trail of speech bubbles.
What he did was he put speech bubbles from the next panel directly in the path the eye likes to follow. Which meant people would instinctively read it first, and then the bubbles would guide them down the wrong path. Fixing it just meant a few panels needed shifted around so the eye wasn’t getting caught on a visual red herring.
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Hands up anyone who ran their mouse over “catch your eye” just in case it was a hyperlink with a different color.
(raises own hand)
I certainly didn’t do that…(shifty-eyes)
I’m awful enough with names in real life and the GM better be glad I remember first names of the party members, most of the time. But yeah “lady in white”, “mister shadow”, “the ratcatcher”… heck, I refer to a husband of one of my characters as “doctor tiger” because I can’t remember his name for the life of me.
To be fair I’m also awful with coming up with names, especially on the spot. If I’m GMing and planning an NPC I can either work something out or use a gerenator of some sort for it but if the players decide to get to know someone at random… I know some people have lists of prepared “generic” names they can assign to random NPCs as they pop up.
It would be very helpful if there was a link to the original comic to compare.
The whole quote section with dads original commentary is a link that leads directly to the original post, you can just click on any of the text and it should bring you straight there :]
aaaand Peter beat me by seconds…
There is, every single bit of hyperlinked text of the original post by Shamus takes you to the original comics.
A bit unrelated, but I was reading the Twelve Year Mistake and I saw that you’ve changed the original text in part 1.
Where it used to say “Our daughter Esther was born”, now it says “Our daughter [Peter] was born”.
I appreciate what you’re trying to do, but didn’t you explicitly say that you aren’t going to be changing any of Shamus’ old posts? And if you didn’t, when did you say that you had made this change?
Honestly? There’s a guy on here who started trying to annoy me with my dead name. But he got the wrong one and was chanting Bays old name instead. So I may have done a little adjustment to see if he’d ever realize his mistake and forgot to go through the process of changing it back when he did. Pretty sure he went through some diecast, which is a pretty funny way to waste your time trying to inconvenience a stranger. I’ll revert the changes when I get the chance, thanks for the heads up. I don’t really intend on erasing that part of my life completely. Sure Esther isn’t my name anymore, but it was for a very long time. It would be weird to pretend I’ve become a completely new person just because I juggled with my gender.
Amazing to me the amount of time people have to read blog entries from 10 years ago. Like they’re preparing for an episode of Jeopardy, where ever category is about a different aspect of a guy they never met.
The amount of things people on here don’t know about Shamus would amaze them.
It is beyond understanding that a group of people believe reading a blog for a dozen years means they know the writer better than the family that lived with him.
Huh? We’re Shamus’ fans! He was a good writer and his writing is still enjoyable to read. And his autoblography is some of his best work. I go back to it on ocassion, myself. There were other autobiographical posts he wrote that were good. And then other posts that gave good arguments or analysis on things that are interesting to go through. Obviously, his fans will reread his stuff in the same way people rewatch tv shows.
I don’t get why people have a problem with using the name people want to be called. Why don’t we call out the Roberts who go by Bob or Williams who go by Bill? Glad you all are getting rid of the jerks.
The name thing is such that I’ve honestly given up on trying to use fantasy names at all. My players remembered Payton and his husband Paxton was better than Cephal Lorentus or whatever. Even Willas got shortened to Will. I honestly think that might be part of the reason Game of Thrones caught on. Sure there’s Daenerys and whatnot, but there’s also Rob, Ned, and Jon.
And before that was the Wheel of Time starring Randall, Matt, Perry, Gwen and Allan.
Even Daenerys can be recognized as “Danny”. So, have your fantasy names, but make them recognizable.
Like Jarnathan.
“Were those really their names?”
That is a dangerous thing to ask this DM, considering those are the “easy” versions of Kalimac Brandagamba and Razanur Tûk.
Ok, i had completley forgotten about the red book of westmarch…
boy that’s quit the rabbit hole! Thank you for the drip down wikipedia :)
I think trying to figure out how you get “Peregrin” from “Razanur” was the moment I gave up on made-up linguistics.
Shamus’s use of well known US cities and other cultural hallmarks in his example immediately made me think of Fallout. In which hundreds of years after the end of civilization as we know it, elements of American culture from before the apocalypse seep through as take on the almost mythical vibe that you’d associate with a fantasy setting rather than a science fiction one. Definitely one of the reasons I love Fallout as a setting.
100%. In FO4 when you go to Diamond City and learn about the “rules of baseball” from the guy selling “swatters” is easily one of the best moments in the game. FO4 had its moments of good and bad writing, and that was one of the better examples.
Funny you should say that. I had just stumbled onto one of Shamus’ ‘This Dumb Industry’ videos on youtube the other day, where he decried Bethesda’s handling of the Fallout setting. The Slugger salesman was featured as a negative experience example.
I don’t have a particularly strong opinion on the guy, other than that I barely understood him (not versed in baseball slang), but it’s interesting how different how he comes across to people.
(I’m not trying to start an argument, just thought it was an amusing anecdote).
Great update of the comic flow!
Oh I love the talk on the formatting! That’s exactly the kind of thing you get the opportunity to touch up on a remaster like this, and comparing both versions it’s surprising how much the readability changes between the two pages with fairly minimal changes. I honestly wouldn’t have noticed unless you called it out in the commentary, it just flowed well. Nice work!
Reminds me of a tumblr post I once saw:
There’s a phenomenon called the Tiffany problem, where certain names that would have been perfectly common in the Middle Ages look anachronistic to modern readers because we think of them as modern names. Turns out, most non scholars of Medieval times don’t really know what a fantasy world would look like
Yet another set of lines that live in my head and get used as often as I can muscle them in.