High Roller

By Shamus Posted Wednesday Feb 3, 2010

Filed under: Notices 70 comments

(High Roller is the name of this new theme.)

I really expected more problems. I ALWAYS have strange browser conflicts when I work on my theme. Someone with Chrome will report bad spacing. Someone using last year’s Opera will report that some screen element is floating off somewhere absurd. Someone on a mobile will be unable to reach the sidebar. Etc.

But High Roller was surprisingly smooth. Nearly all of the complaints were on readability and usability issues, and most of them were in agreement. This is unprecedented. The old thread has burned out and become obsolete. I updated the Theme several times during the day on Monday, and addressed the most serious concerns. Now that I’ve done those fixes I want to re-start the discussion in case anyone else has any issues.

The only thing left on my to-do list is to add some text above the comment box to let people know what tags they can use. Actually, I’m thinking of making a new page. WordPress only lets people use certain tags, and all else will be expunged. <span> and <div> must be forbidden because of the trouble they can cause. I’d like to take some obscure tag that nobody uses and turn it into our spoiler tag so that people can mask spoilers. Maybe <cite>? Maybe <abbr>? There are plugins that add a bunch of forum / wiki style markups for comments, but I just got done overhauling the theme to speed things up so I’m not eager to add some new filter to slow things down again.

Speaking of which, if you drag over the very bottom of the page you can see how long it takes WordPress to generate the current page. This number is apples-and-oranges with what I was using it before. It includes a bunch of processing that I wasn’t. Before, pages would vary a great deal. Slow pages would be ten times slower than fast ones. Now performance is far more uniform, and we no longer see troublesome spikes. (I really, really wish my web host would give me a CPU usage meter so I could make proper comparisons.)

And finally, I’m still undecided on the issue of threaded comments. They are certainly a double-edged sword. I feel I need to give it a week before I make that decision. Maybe I’ll put up a poll? Still thinking it over.

Again, feedback welcome. Thanks again to everyone for the useful suggestions.

 


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70 thoughts on “High Roller

  1. Randy Johnson says:

    My only complaint with threaded comments is I can’t tell where a new comment is.

    1. Volatar says:

      I agree. I love the new theme, and the threaded comments, The only problem is not knowing where the new ones are.

      1. BlckDv says:

        As an illustration of the seemingly agreed main issue with threads, I just saw the post count jump to twelve, and had to go hunting before I realized someone had made a reply to the first comment.

        1. Hal says:

          They do make it easier to ridicule that “FIRST!” guy.

  2. Evan says:

    Surprisingly enough, most of this even seems to work in IE6 (shut up, it’s a school computer). Good to see the site is running smoothly so far.

    And I certainly wouldn’t mind seeing threaded comments, at least on a trial basis. It’d certainly beat scrolling back and forth just to get context on a post.

  3. Nico says:

    If this is more or less the final revision I have very few issues with it. Firefox seems to handle it fine, and the visible difference is fairly minor – a good thing, in my opinion. I’m still not loving the side pictures that accompany articles; all in all, however, I think it’s pretty good (and if it keeps the site from crashing, all the better).

  4. Blackbird71 says:

    I’ll agree on the threaded comments being a double-edged sword. On the one hand, I really like the ability to directly reply to posts. On the other hand, it does make it more difficult to check back on an article for any new comments, as I can’t simply go to whatever comment number I had left off at.

    Overall though, it’s a nice clean design, I’m glad it’s working well for you and that there was such a smooth transition.

  5. Strangeite says:

    I have no complaints. Seems to render well in Firefox, Opera, Mobile Safari and Safari.

    I do have one suggestion. I prefer threaded comments as it makes replying easier, but the above complaint about not knowing when a new comment appears is very valid.

    They best solution I have ever seen is how threaded comments work on the SBNation blogs. Basically you have the standard threaded comments but new comments are highlighted with a very pale shade of yellow. And you can press the “z” key and your browser jumps to the next new comment. Works wonderfully and makes reading 300+ comment topics very easy.

    Don’t ask me how it is done, because I have no idea.

    1. ngthagg says:

      The SBNation comment pages are exceptional. One feature you didn’t mention is that they are updated live, so that you can see others post as you type. I doubt it’s a very portable system, however. It depends on logins, for one thing.

  6. Sandrinnad says:

    for the most part I’m liking the new theme :) my only complaint is that I’m just not getting enough contrast between the grey background and the black text. It’s not unreadably low, but it does make a block of text a chore rather than a delight :)

  7. Sheer_Falacy says:

    As I’ve said before, I’m against threaded comments.

    Otherwise, it’s a good theme.

    And what trouble can span and div cause? Other than giving them the same id as one that already exists on the page.

    1. scragar says:

      The ID issue could be done with any element on the page.

  8. illiterate says:

    My problems with my windows mobile browser (which is something like IE4.0) aside, I like the new theme.

    I personally would prefer not to use threaded comments. If your comment system was more like slashdot/usenet, I think it could accomodate it, but the five-layer limitation is a bit frustrating. Does the comment system support quote tags? I would love to see that, as a solution to the “who is talking to who” issues.

    What happened to the twitter feed? I don’t have a twitter account, but I enjoyed reading those on the sidebar.

    That being said, don’t do so much work that it interferes with writing the Shamus Plays or Experienced Points, please.

  9. krellen says:

    The new style is okay. If it makes things faster and more stable, it’s a good thing.

    Not really sure on the threaded comments. My initial response was favourable, but I’m not sure now. Especially as it seems they cut you off at a certain nesting level anyway.

    1. neothoron says:

      The cutting-off at a certain nesting level is required – otherwise the comment width could easily be too narrow to be practical.

      As for the problem of threaded comments, I can imagine two solutions:
      -Every comment posted “in response” puts an auto-generated “dummy comment” that provides a link to the other comment.
      -Give people the choice whether to display comments as threaded or not; in “non-threaded” mode, “reply” comments would contain a link to their parent.

      On a related matter, though it is not clear to me how much that would help, maybe the plugin at http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/gregs-threaded-comment-numbering/ would be a good idea.

      1. Jabor says:

        My preference would be “spoiler-quotes” – all you see is a small box saying “originally posted by {foo}”, and clicking on it expands it into the full comment that you’re quoting.

        Keeps things in cronological order, but solves the quoting problem without forcing people to re-read stuff they just read (or skip over it looking for the end of the quote).

  10. Mark says:

    Regarding allowed tags, I’d like to be able to use ol/ul/li. For a spoiler tag, couldn’t you just use [spoiler]* in the comment text and render it as [span class=”spoiler”]?

    I second the “quote” tag idea.

    *Only with angle brackets.

  11. BlckDv says:

    With no idea of the code overhead it would cost, I’m hesitant to jump on the band wagon, but given the choice between the current threaded comments and an ability to click a button on an existing comment to “quote” it in a single chain of comments, I think I like the quote better.

    While I really liked the idea of nested replies, the reality of having to rescan the entire comments section of every post looking for new info quickly soured on me.

    Aside: I don’t see the render time at the foot of the page, was it removed after your initial post, or am I looking in the wrong place?

    Edit: Answered my own aside. I had not mentally translated “drag over” to highlighting it; now see the black on black text.

    1. Trizophenie says:

      The render time is black on black background, you have to highlight it manually even below the banner at the bottom of the page to see it.

    2. Christopher says:

      Way down at the bottom, below the Twenty-Sided logo. You need to click and drag as though selecting text since it’s black text on black background. Be careful though! Click to high and you’ll hit the logo and navigate back to the home page.

      My load time: 43 queries. 1.205 seconds.

  12. Trizophenie says:

    The theme works great from the mobile version of Opera my DSi uses, so no complaints about it not working from me.

  13. Eltanin says:

    I’m all for threaded comments. They’re delightful. And yes, identifying a new post would be helpful. I wish that I had an actual suggestion to achieve this. I wonder if it would be useful to be able to minimize/collapse a thread. Or have it automatically collapse, and then when a new post happens it could be in a different color (a la visited hyperlinks). Meh. I’m not claiming to be helpful in my suggestions.

  14. Jokermatt999 says:

    It is working beautifully on the default browser for Android. As for threaded comments, after the time I’ve spent with reddit’s beautiful commenting system, I can’t live without them. They just work better for in depth discussions. I agree that finding new posts can be frustrating, but with some sort of system that flags comments as read or unread, that could be remedied. I’m loving the new site so far, and I’m even one of those crabby types who defaults to disliking new things because I’m used to the old.

  15. Noah says:

    I’m using Chrome on Ubuntu Linux and this page looks great. I haven’t gone back to look at the DMotR archives yet.

  16. Matt K says:

    Well, the theme is servicable in both Firefox 3.6 and IE 6 (work computer, we’ll probably be on IE6 until 2012/the end of the world).

    My complaint is that the die roller seems useless now because for the most part the numbers are so small that I can’t read the die.

    I also agree that I don’t know what are new comments so I only read the nested comments once and never go back to see if any new ones have been added.

    EDIT: I forgot, my other issue is that when I have the browser in non-maximized mode, the text for the article is like right up against the side and thus is a little hard to read.

    1. Blackbird71 says:

      I have to agree on the die roller – the dice are now much harder to read. Also, the positioning seems odd, being over on the right side, I first didn’t notice they were there and thought they had been removed.

    2. Octal says:

      RE: non-maximized mode

      Ditto, and this is enough of an issue for me that if it stays that way, it’s actually going to be preferable to me to just open the source for the page, DELETE everything before the text of the post, then apply changes and read the post that way. (I love Opera. It’s not that I really need to create my own personal version of a webpage often, but it’s nice to have the option.) For long posts this is less annoying than having have my browser maximized.

    3. RPharazon says:

      I think that the dice problem is that Shamus obviously has a massive, 50-megapixel monitor or something, as all reasonably-rich writers and workers are wont to have.

      As a supremely poor college student, I’m still in “12-inch, 1024×768 monitor running at 800×600 because the 7-year-old integrated graphics card failed” range, making it impossible for me to read even the d4 numbers.

  17. Galad says:

    At first when I saw the top bar loading slowly I thought “oh noes, Shamus had to add horrendous ads to make up for hosting prices, now this site is scarred like thousands of others!”

    Then I saw it was just a new design *phew*

    It looks neat, too :)

  18. Eltanin says:

    Oh, one other thing. When one clicks on an archive, it lists all the entries on the subject, sorted by oldest first. Would you consider reversing that? This is likely just a preference that will vary with people (Bud/Bud light; Coke/Pepsi; Twenty Sided/The Rest of the Internet), but I’d prefer to see the most recent articles first. I think that it’s more likely to be useful to my searches. For though the stuff from 2005 is fun to go back and look at, if I’m poking around an archive it’s probably for a specific thing and given my lack of memory, it’s probably for a reasonably recent thing. Anyway. Just a suggestion.

  19. TehShrike says:

    I love threaded comments, but they are only really reasonable if the replies start out collapsed.

  20. Benjamin Orchard says:

    Love it.

    Suggestion 1: place a small bit of space between top-level comments so that it’s a touch easier to see where a thread ends.

    Suggestion 2: Allow deeper threads. While 5 may seem generous, I’ve seen it go *much* deeper on other sites. Granted, this may cause performance issues, but that’s your call…An empirical test could easily demonstrate the level of impact each level of threading causes. You could then easily determine an optimal level based on how likely you think it is for a thread to end up past a certain level.

    Suggestion 3: Switch the grey to a slightly lighter grey. Maybe even silver. Also, make the font a touch heavier.

    Suggestion 4: ?????

    Suggestion 6: Profit.

    There is no suggestion 5.

  21. Brie says:

    Could you not just make it so people can choose if they want threaded or not comments? Or will that create an obscene number of issues and slow down?

    1. Zak McKracken says:

      It’s probably more work that way (for both you and the server), but if opinions are divided like this, it seems a good idea to make it an option.

      For me, just keep it threaded. recognizing new posts is unimportant in the long term (because there are very few to no new posts after some time), and also to the casual visitor who will just glance over the discussion and not return later so see what happens. If I want to look for something someone else answered to my post, I can just type my nick into the “search on current page” field of my browser.

      The only thing I’d like to see is all comments on one (separate?) page. Makes reading them and finding posts much easier. And increase the thread depth!

  22. Neil says:

    Perhaps a definition list would work well for the spoilers?

    [dl class=”spoiler”]
    [dt]Spoilers below![/dt]
    [dd]The boat sinks and she throws the necklace into the sea![/dd]
    [/dl]

    And then you could have the stylesheet hide the [dd] elements by default and use css or javascript to show it when the user performs the required interaction.

  23. asterismW says:

    I like the poll idea. Sometimes people don’t leave comments because they feel that what they have to say has already been said a hundred times, but they’ll still participate in a poll. And rather than a binary love/hate poll, you could have a gradient system. I’m one of those, “I like threaded comments, but…” people who doesn’t feel one emotional extreme or the other toward them. I’m somewhere in the middle.

    Of course, the poll would only serve to gather feedback. Blogs aren’t a democracy. We will all bow down before your ultimate decree, and the dissenters will have to suck it up or be publicly flogged.

    1. Eltanin says:

      Totally off comment. But Cassiopeia does make a delightful asterism, doesn’t she? What is your connection with sidereal matters anyway asterismW? I ask because celestial navigation is near and dear to my heart and I’m always pleased to make the acquaintance of anyone as fond of the heavens as I am.

      I’ve seen your comments here and there, but now that I have a threaded format in which to reply, I can send my kudos directly to you!

      1. asterismW says:

        Why thank you, Eltanin! asterismW is a very clever pseudonym for my name. My dad was (and still is) big into astronomy, a love which he passed on to me. We’re more casual aficionados, though; neither of us have the time nor the equipment to appreciate the night sky much beyond the occasional camping trip. I always wonder if anyone “gets” my alias, so it’s nice knowing there are those who do!

        1. Eltanin says:

          FYI, if you didn’t know, Eltanin is a navigational star in Draco. :)

          I have a semi-casual relationship with astronomy as well. I’m very conversant with functional astronomy (navigating by the stars) and with unaided or binocular observations, but a ‘real’ astronomer quickly leaves me behind in their appreciation of the subject’s depth.

          Anyway, cheers!

          1. asterismW says:

            I didn’t know that, that’s cool! And in only 1.5 million years Eltanin will be the brightest star in the sky!

  24. MelTorefas says:

    I just realized no die roller for comments, sad day! 30 replies and we’re only on 20 and 3. I would also like to second the idea of coloring or some other notification for new replies. Otherwise, still liking the new theme a lot. :)

  25. Oleyo says:

    Love the new layout, Shamus. I am totally digging the Older/Newer buttons being on the top and bottom of the page where you actually are when you are scanning through the archives.

    Nice Job!

    PS: I agree about a slight space between main body comments.

  26. Gary says:

    Yeah… I’m not sure I like the threaded coments. Perhaps if you just had a link that would quote a specific person in your post box. (And have it be edit-able once the quoted text enters the box) ((Kind of like the “Reply to this button” but instead a “quote this” button))

    Otherwise I’m quite pleased with the new look.

  27. Simply Simon says:

    There are very few issues I have with the new layout.

    Perhaps the gradient on the bottom should be fading to dark blue like at the top. For looking consistent if not only looking good. But I, nor anyone else I imagine, are going to be looking at it a lot.

    As for the links section to the left, I’d like the text on the blue gradiented bars to be one pixel higher up, but that’s pretty darn minor. Currently they seem to be centred, and for the large letters it works very well, but the small letters seems a bit off centre and the ‘g’s bottom are on the exact edge of them, and a little space for that could be good. Also a darker shade of blue to make the links stand out a bit more would be great.

    Also the gradient on the comments annoys me. Simply a white line, which you seem to have anyway, a solid colour or starting the gradient at the white line and fading back to blue/brownish upwards would be good.

    As for the nested comments, I rather like it. But if you’d like to have the comments organized by time perhaps a “Replies: ” added to every comment that, when clicked, would expand to a list of links to replies to the post could work.

  28. Silfir says:

    I’m going to take the risk and report this right away. I mean, what are the changes someone mentioned it already?

    http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=619

    Yeah. A comic from September 2006 totally blew up. At least it did on the most recent Firefox at 1280×800 resolution. Of course making sure even the most ancient of your postings still work is top priority. I am sure you are most grateful that I brought this grave matter to your attention. No need to thank me, sir!

    1. Taellosse says:

      It didn’t blow up for me, but the text of the navigation links on the right is overlaying part of the comic, making both pretty hard to read. But that comic violates Shamus’ self-imposed post-width restrictions, so I guess it’s no surprise. I’m using Firefox 3.5.7, incidentally (which I think is now the previous version).

      1. Silfir says:

        Then we have the same problem. I just wanted to screw with Shamus’ head by posting a horrifyingly inaccurate description.

  29. Taellosse says:

    On the whole its looking good. I’ve got no functionality complaints at all, and only a couple of very minor aesthetic ones. First, at the top, above the blue-to-gray gradient where the subject buttons are, I see a black bar, perhaps 10 pixels thick. Seems odd to have it there. Would it not be better to remove that, or make it the same blue as the gradient?

    Second, the gradient at the bottom is still in black. I think it should match the color of the one at the top, for the sake of unity.

    And I’m in favor of threaded comments, but I can see where others’ concerns might come from regarding revisiting a post multiple times. The suggestion of replacing threaded comments with a quote function when hitting the “Reply to this” link seems like a good compromise. Then the quote could include the comment number and name of the original message, as well as the text itself. So long as that text is editable, so one has the option of paring down a lengthy comment to just the pertinent bits if one wishes, much as it handles it on a forum.

  30. SoldierHawk says:

    Hmm, the comment # die are a bit small to read…

    Also, I’ll just mention again I’d like to see the category selection bar at the top perpetually lit–have the box DARKEN when we select it. That makes it easier to see what you’re selecting without having to drag the mouse over all of ’em.

  31. someguy says:

    blue comments somehow > grey comments

    and the text I’m typing in this box here right now is teeny-weeny.
    (correction: I had the overall text zoomed to something that feels appropriate for someone under 60 ;)

  32. SatansBestBuddy says:

    This blog is powered by WordPress and uses the High Roller theme by Shamus Young, which is a homebrew frankenstein hackjob modification of Sandbox.

    Just noticed this little blurb at the bottom of the page, and I’ve got to say, you really need to give yourself more credit.

    It’s okay to be modest, but there’s a point where you stop being modest and start putting yourself down, and when you do excellent work like this, putting yourself down for doing it is the last thing I want to here.

    Anyway, I’m all for threaded comments, though I agree with others that it’s kinda hard to tell when someone makes a new post when it’s just a reply to an old post.

    Maybe do something with colours, IE have older posts be darker and newer posts appear bright, not so far that it’s unreadable, but just enough of a difference that people scrolling past can see a brighter than average post and recognize it as a new comment replying to an older one.

    Finally, the number dice for comments are too small, more than a few I have to squit to make out what they’re saying, making them practially useless, and they’re too cool to be useless.

  33. scragar says:

    http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/index/elements.html

    HTML4 has the <DEL> tag, which would be perfect for spoilers, since it’s quite literally a tag for removed text. Another good choice might be <s> since <strike> is an alias for it which is far easier to remember or explain(and s for spoiler makes sense).

    Also, at some point in the future can we get supported for email reply notification? It’d be nice to not have to reload the page from time to time to watch for responses.

    Also, I noticed that the edit timer only updates for one post if you have multiple, is that a bug?

  34. Hawk says:

    Threaded comments: yuck. Keep it on topic, people.

    I kinda preferred the old Lawful Good theme (better readabilty/contrast), but I can certainly live with the current theme.

  35. elias says:

    I still don’t think the dice are big enough to read. If they’re the same size as they were in the old theme, then it’s a contrast issue with background colors of the comments. I think they should be bigger anyway, though…

    1. Teldurn says:

      I agree with that. I like seeing the post numbers spelled out in polyhedral dice. But these dice are too small to read most of the time.

  36. eri says:

    The issue I have still left over is that the colours on the comments are just a bit too bright… and I suppose I’m not a big fan of the alternating colours; it’s not much of an issue when you don’t have threaded comments, but it gets a bit confusing when you’ve got colours in colours in colours. I’d say look to Joystiq for design cues – have more defined boxes for individual comments, and change the size for nested ones rather than sticking them inside the others. If you have to have colour variation, then it makes more sense to change the colour of nested comments, not every other one.

  37. Dix says:

    Yay for less color with the comments. The fadey stripe works on the comments where there are other graphical elements that give it shape, but does not seem to work as well on blockquotes (such as in the Watterson post) where it just looks like my eyes have a thin horizontal fuzzy over them. o_O

  38. Andy says:

    About the only thing that irks me is the way that blockquote stuff is displayed. With the old theme, blockquotes looked clearly separate from the main body of text and yet obviously related. Now they appear as a box with a white gradient through the first couple of lines.
    I am guessing you are using the same bg image as is used on the (grey) comments. It works in the comments as the gradient image in combination with the white line nicely delineates between comment author and comment content, whereas within the blockquote boxes the gradient just looks a little odd.
    To my eyes at least.
    When viewed on Chrome.

    Apart from that, top effort.
    Mildy annoyed that you are getting reports of the theme working in IE6 as I am currently trying to get my theme to do just that to no avail.

    Keep up the good work.
    And more “boring” tech-mystery posts please!

  39. SteveDJ says:

    Issue #1: Same comment as others – I like the threaded comments the first time I come to the page, and esp. if I want to reply.

    But upon returning to the page a few hours, or a day, later – I’m completely lost on what has changed in the comments.

    If I were to vote right now – I’d have to vote against threaded (but, with some sadness).

    Issue #2: Typo at the top. It says “Posted by in Notices by Shamus on…” Obviously, that first “by” is incorrect. :)

    Issue #3: A long time ago (before the previous theme changes, even?), the characters like :) would be replaced with actual smilies (or whatever they are called), but now they aren’t. Could that be restored?

    Edit: Issue #4: I don’t like how the comments are all bunched together. This looks good with replies, but then having the next main comment bunched up agaisted the previous is hard to distinguish that I’ve left the thread with replies and entered a new comment.

    Issue #5: Editing this post, is extremely hard. The box keeps trying to scroll back up to the middle somewhere. As I type, it jumps down so I can see what I’m typing, but if I pause for a second, it jumps back into the middle. Definitely a bug here. IE8 here, on Win7 (64-bit).

  40. Shimmin says:

    I’ll add another vote against threaded comments. I can see where people are coming from with “different colours for new posts” or whatever, but I really don’t want to have to read through the entire comments section, scanning for possible new posts, every time I revisit a page. Adding them at one end, with a link back or a shout-out, works very well for me.

    Also, the two greys (background and quotes/comments) looks a bit weird to me, to be honest. I’d be tempted to go with pale yellow or something as the other comment colour (which also matches the logo theme!).

    Bigger dice, as mentioned above, would also be nice.

    Oh, and a very minor niggle: when you get down into long articles or comments, the whole page seems out of whack because it’s offset to the left and the bar isn’t visible. If you want to stick with that arrangement, you could put the links on a floating DIV that followed you down the page for easy navigation. Don’t know if that’d mess with anything else, though.

    On the whole though, it seems okay to me.

  41. Dodds says:

    Yeah, the whole “Posted by in by Shamus” underneath the title is starting to bug me. One of those wereby once you start noticing it you can’t stop noticing it. Also, the comment’s that have a grey background don’t contrast with the actual site background, try making it lighter?. Apart from that, I really like the new design. Good job.

  42. Dev Null says:

    Could you track comment threads without displaying them that way? So display them in chronological post order, but put a “Next in thread” “Previous in thread” kind of link down the bottom of each? (Though then you need something to deal with parallel branches. And it might slow things down again. Anyways, just a thought.)

    I’m curious why you hid the usage stats down the bottom. What, don’t think we’re geek enough to handle the statistics? Your aesthetic sense will get you in the end Shamus!

  43. cavalier says:

    Might just be my system, but using XP Pro, Firefox 3.5 there is no left margin. A bit of ‘white’ space would make it easier to read.

  44. JB says:

    You usually needs three div boxes outside each other to have full control of borders, padding and margins, and make it work in all browsers.

    I almost never have to use separate css files or ie conditional comments any more.

  45. Ed says:

    After a couple of days, I think the nested comments make the discussion MUCH more readable.

  46. Blake Winton says:

    My only real complaint is that I used to be able to search for “Shamus:” to find the comments from you, and now I can’t. (Yeah, I could search for “Shamus”, but that finds you and everyone who mentions your name, which isn’t as good.)

    Aside from that, I like it. :)

    Later,
    Blake.

  47. I like the way this has gone. It’s looking good. I vote for threaded comments staying – but what might work is adding an anchor link to the actual comment and placing the link to that comment where it would normally go in the comments timeline. To explain; something like this:
    http://www.twitpic.com/121wqg

  48. Unlikely Ordinance says:

    Where’s the fitter tweed?

  49. Ell Jay says:

    With the benefit of some settling-in time, I’m enjoying the idea of changing themes across the top to match calendar events (i.e. Valentine’s), and the gold-backed boxes are really snazzy. That is all.

  50. Ross Bearman says:

    Shamus, the site ends up being one large link in elinks as this anchor never closes:
    title="Random comments and links"

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You can enclose spoilers in <strike> tags like so:
<strike>Darth Vader is Luke's father!</strike>

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Can you imagine having Darth Vader as your <i>father</i>?

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I'm <b>very</b> glad Darth Vader isn't my father.

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Darth Vader said <blockquote>Luke, I am your father.</blockquote>

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