{"id":38217,"date":"2017-04-25T06:00:45","date_gmt":"2017-04-25T10:00:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/?p=38217"},"modified":"2017-04-26T14:16:16","modified_gmt":"2017-04-26T18:16:16","slug":"the-end-of-an-era","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/?p=38217","title":{"rendered":"The End of an Era"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been collaborating with Josh Viel <a href=\"?p=6796\">since 2010<\/a>. We&#8217;ve done <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/spoilerwarning\/\">Spoiler Warning<\/a> for seven years, and <a href=\"?cat=287\">The Diecast<\/a> for Four. But as of now we&#8217;re going our separate ways. While I haven&#8217;t personally spoken to Chris yet, I&#8217;ve been told he&#8217;s leaving too.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ve had disagreements over <a href=\"?p=19709\">how I run this site<\/a>. I don&#8217;t want to put words in his mouth, but at the same time I need to explain the disagreement or I&#8217;ll end up buried in questions, rumors, and speculation. So here&#8217;s the short version: He&#8217;s been unhappy with how I run this community and he couldn&#8217;t in good conscience continue to participate. <a href=\"?p=38180\">The most recent Spoiler Warning post<\/a> was the straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back. I didn&#8217;t step in when he thought I should, and I allowed comments to stand unchallenged that he thought deserved censure. (In my own reckoning, I should simply have closed the comments when people got angry. I didn&#8217;t feel the need to <em>personally<\/em> weigh in.) This was only the latest in a long series of disagreements over this sort of thing. This has been a long time coming. <\/p>\n<p><!--more-->It should be noted that I respect this decision, and I&#8217;d urge all of you to do the same. Far too many collaborations end in an explosion of he said \/ she said drama, or in letting issues fester and grow into grudges over time. Josh has taken a principled stance and I can&#8217;t criticize him for that. <\/p>\n<p>Lots of other (successful) sites are run the way Josh wants: Certain viewpoints are deleted, and often the site makes some kind of official position statement on various Important Issues so the audience knows where the hosts stand. But that feels alien to me and it&#8217;s not how I want to do things. Right or wrong, after 12 years I&#8217;ve developed my own approach to managing a community and it&#8217;s the only thing that feels natural to me. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc\">As the outside culture war has increased in intensity<\/a>, I&#8217;ve become more adamant that I don&#8217;t want this place to fly a particular ideological flag, even if it&#8217;s a flag I agree with. <\/p>\n<p><div class='imagefull'><img src='https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/images\/grumpy_old_men.jpg' width=100% alt='Image (mostly) unrelated. Having said that, I wonder whatever happened to the Grumpy Old Men Movies? The world seems to have forgotten them.' title='Image (mostly) unrelated. Having said that, I wonder whatever happened to the Grumpy Old Men Movies? The world seems to have forgotten them.'\/><\/div><div class='mouseover-alt'>Image (mostly) unrelated. Having said that, I wonder whatever happened to the Grumpy Old Men Movies? The world seems to have forgotten them.<\/div><\/p>\n<p>On a personal level, I&#8217;ve got people I love all over the political spectrum. My circle of close friends and relatives includes bleeding heart social justice types and FOX news-watching Trump supporters. (And also several that would defy the classical left \/ right classifications and stereotypes.) I don&#8217;t always agree with them, but I always want this site to be a place where they can feel welcome and not judged<span class='snote' title='1'>Even though, ironically, none of them ever show up. My family and friends aren&#8217;t much into videogames and don&#8217;t really follow my site.<\/span>. <\/p>\n<p>This site is not perfect, and I am not a perfect moderator. I&#8217;m sure if you dig around in the archives you can find spots where I came down a little too hard on one person or went a little too easy on another. I&#8217;m as prone to bias as anyone. But I do what I can. <\/p>\n<p>According to Josh, Spoiler Warning will continue. I won&#8217;t be on it and it won&#8217;t appear on my site, but you&#8217;ll be able to see new episodes on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/SpoilerWarningShow\">Spoiler Warning YouTube channel<\/a>. The Diecast will continue on this site, although it looks like I&#8217;m going to need to replenish the ranks. <\/p>\n<p>So that&#8217;s the story. Again, there&#8217;s no hard feelings on my end and I hope Spoiler Warning fans will continue to enjoy the show without me. <\/p>\n<p>EDIT: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/posts\/9299827\">Josh responded here.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been collaborating with Josh Viel since 2010. We&#8217;ve done Spoiler Warning for seven years, and The Diecast for Four. But as of now we&#8217;re going our separate ways. While I haven&#8217;t personally spoken to Chris yet, I&#8217;ve been told he&#8217;s leaving too. We&#8217;ve had disagreements over how I run this site. 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