{"id":17315,"date":"2012-09-30T10:57:10","date_gmt":"2012-09-30T15:57:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/?p=17315"},"modified":"2012-09-30T11:00:44","modified_gmt":"2012-09-30T16:00:44","slug":"experienced-points-tropes-vs-women-protagonists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/?p=17315","title":{"rendered":"Experienced Points: Tropes vs. Women Protagonists"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In <a href=\"http:\/\/www.escapistmagazine.com\/articles\/view\/columns\/experienced-points\/9946-Tropes-vs-Women-Protagonists\" title=\"The Escapist - Tropes vs. Women Protagonists\">my column this week<\/a>, I gently criticized the proposed Tropes vs. Women video series. This is a very touchy subject. It shouldn&#8217;t be. Sarkeesian herself has become a lightning rod and a lot of the discussion about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/566429325\/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games\/posts\/247064\" title=\"Tropes vs. Women in Video Games - Kickstarter\">her Kickstarter<\/a> revolves around trying to discredit her. To be fair, not all of her critics are hate-filled troll monsters. Some of them are very <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=p6gLmcS3-NI\" title=\"Anita Sarkeesian Part 1: The College Graduate - YouTube\">reasonable<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LpFk5F-S_hI&#038;list=PLA99BA14B8860EE67&#038;index=3&#038;feature=plcp\" title=\"Anita Sarkeesian Part 2: Burqa Beach Party\">calm<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think the debate should be about <em>her<\/em> for the same reason that I never wanted the DRM debate to be about <em>me<\/em>. We&#8217;re talking about ideas, and that interests me. Even if Anita Sarkeesian is every bit the fraud her critics claim, it doesn&#8217;t really invalidate the debate itself. It&#8217;s just another Ad Hominem attack in a debate that&#8217;s already got way too much <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ad_hominem\" title=\"Ad hominem - Wikipedia\">Ad Hominem<\/a> vs. <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Appeal_to_authority\" title=\"Argument from authority - Wikipedia\">argumentum ad verecundiam<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>This column was my own attempt to move the spotlight from her and her critics to the ideas I find so interesting. This is also why I try to keep the conversation positive. I&#8217;m not accusing anyone of of being outright misogynist. I&#8217;m pointing to a problem and hoping we can have a discussion that revolves around solutions. <\/p>\n<p>The usual excuse &#8211; and I&#8217;ve already gotten a few responses to this effect &#8211; is that action games aren&#8217;t made for women because women don&#8217;t want to play action games. Everyone knows that <acronym title=\"THIS IS SARCASM\">anecdotes are the most reliable form of scientific study<\/acronym>, so here&#8217;s mine:<\/p>\n<p><em>A few night ago, my daughter was playing Left 4 Dead the other night with her friends. The gender breakdown of the players was 3 females and 1 male. Most of her gaming time is spent with other females. So females are playing, but they&#8217;re mostly playing with each other. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not saying the split is 50\/50, I&#8217;m saying the split is unknown and nobody has a really good way of finding out. And we have no way of knowing how much more even the split would be if online interactions weren&#8217;t so poisonously hostile and crude. And it might be better still if most action games weren&#8217;t stories where a man gets to be the big hero and the women are relegated to secondary importance. And no, I&#8217;m not saying those stories are invalid or that they shouldn&#8217;t be made. And <em>obviously<\/em> I&#8217;m not saying games need to be split 50\/50. I&#8217;m just suggesting that there might be an untapped market out there. Instead of making <em>another<\/em> attempt to capture the same 18-30 male demo everyone is fighting over, it&#8217;s entirely possible that the right AAA game could open some new doors for the hobby.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In my column this week, I gently criticized the proposed Tropes vs. Women video series. This is a very touchy subject. It shouldn&#8217;t be. Sarkeesian herself has become a lightning rod and a lot of the discussion about her Kickstarter revolves around trying to discredit her. To be fair, not all of her critics are [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[102],"tags":[155],"class_list":["post-17315","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-weekly-column","tag-experienced-points"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17315","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=17315"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17315\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=17315"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=17315"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=17315"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}