{"id":1348,"date":"2007-10-01T11:00:23","date_gmt":"2007-10-01T16:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/?p=1348"},"modified":"2008-08-16T10:22:43","modified_gmt":"2008-08-16T15:22:43","slug":"freedom-vs-story","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shamusyoung.com\/twentysidedtale\/?p=1348","title":{"rendered":"Freedom vs. Story"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rampantgames.com\/blog\/2007\/09\/what-makes-great-rpg-answer.html\">Rampant Coyote<\/a> followed up to my earlier posts on this subject.  Mr. Halbert had <a href=\"http:\/\/mrhalbert.blogspot.com\/2007\/09\/what-makes-great-rpg.html\">more thoughts<\/a> on this as well.  (And while I&#8217;m thinking about it: I check Technorati for incoming links. Technorati is sometimes capricious and unpredictable. As always, if you have a response post on your blog feel free to throw a link in the comments.)<\/p>\n<p>I do notice that two of the big items on everyone&#8217;s list of things computer RPG&#8217;s should have are:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>It must give the player lots of freedom to make their own choices.\n<\/li>\n<li>It must have a great story.\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>But that&#8217;s not so much a pair of features as a <em>tradeoff<\/em>.  <!--more-->Great stories must be revealed at a steady rate.  They must have compelling characters. They should have twists and and an escalating sense of danger.  On the other hand, freedom means giving the player the ability to impose their will on the story in unpredictable ways. Imagine LOTR if Frodo destroyed the ring at the start of book two, and the rest of the story was a tale of declining danger and excitment as they mopped up the weakened orcs and marched home. There needs to be a climax and some sort of wrap-up to any good story, but this is nearly impossible if you&#8217;ve got a world where the player can go anywhere and kill or ignore anyone.  <\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"?p=780\">DMotR strip of killing Gollum<\/a> is a classic example of this.  Having Gollumn follow the party was needed to set the stage for the second book.  It also built tension.  All of that would be wrecked if the player can just kill Gollum outright.  As the game developer you can make him invincible, in which case you&#8217;re taking away player freedom.  <em>&#8220;That was total BS how you could shoot that skinny little guy with like 1,000 arrows and he wouldn&#8217;t die.  Stupid railroading game.&#8221;<\/em>  Now, in a tabletop game you have a human mind working on the story that can adapt as needed, but in a videogame all you have to work with is what you&#8217;ve programmed.  The developers cannot hope to anticipate all of the crazy things players might want to do.  Even if they could, writing and testing all of those possible paths would be a mammoth undertaking.  What you&#8217;ll end up with is a ten-hour game that requires the budget of a two-hundred hour game.  <\/p>\n<p>One way around this &#8211; and this applies to both videogames and tabletop games &#8211; is to create a &#8220;great&#8221; story to begin with, and then offer the player the continual illusion of freedom within that story by giving them superficial choices.  The people at Bioware are masters of this show of illusory player input.  It&#8217;s not until your second or third trip through the game that you realize how little your dialog choices matter in KOTOR.  The first time through, every choice seems meaningful, and NPC reactions are used to distract and redirect you if you attempt to veer away from the critical parts of the path.  <\/p>\n<p>The illusion is reinforced if you give the player lots of freedom to change things not germane to the plot:<\/p>\n<div class=\"dmnotes\">You come upon a pen of slaves in the Baron&#8217;s fortress. You can free the slaves, kill the slaves, sell the slaves, or ignore the slaves. Wow! Choices all over the place! But if you free the slaves the Baron becomes angry that you caused him so much hassle, and sends his men after you. If you kill the slaves the the Baron becomes angry that you destroyed his property and sends his men after you.  If you sell the slaves the the Baron becomes angry that you stole his property and sends his men after you.   If you ignore the slaves then one of the slaves tells the Baron you were in his compound, he becomes angry and sends his men after you.  The player gets the the freedom to determine the fate of the slaves, not not the freedom to control the plot.  If done right (as in this case) then the player feels like she <i>does<\/i> have control of the plot, and can walk away with the impression that if she&#8217;d made a different choice she would have gotten a different outcome. <\/div>\n<p>But no matter how you set things up, an epic story is going to be at odds with total freedom.  You can have more of both, but the game will take longer, cost more, and may suffer from wonky or broken quest triggers because the whole system is just too dang complex.  <\/p>\n<p>Despite <a href=\"?p=1340\">my whining<\/a> about how RPG&#8217;s aren&#8217;t delivering what I want, I&#8217;m sure a lot of the problem is the nature of the fanbase itself.  There aren&#8217;t a lot of us. (We&#8217;re vastly outnumbered by FPS fans and casual players who just want another SIMS expansion.)  We&#8217;re also very picky, and our small demographic is broken into a number of sub-groups with conflicting desires. Some people want the freedom of Oblivion or Fallout.  Some people want vibrant characters and rich stories, as with Final Fantasy.  Some people are jerks like me who unreasonably demand <em>both<\/em>.  And some people <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blizzard.com\/diablo2\/\">just want to mow down millions of golblins in their search for a sword that does 3% more damage<\/a>.  The marketing people bundle us all together as &#8220;RPG players&#8221;, but we&#8217;re not really fans of any unifying game type.  <\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s like the nerds at the school dance.  If you&#8217;re among them, you can see Computer Nerds, Socially Inept and Unattractive Nerds, Likeable but Overly Serious Nerds, Goody Two-Shoes Nerds, and D&#038;D Nerds.  But to anyone outside the group, we&#8217;re just a Herd of Nerds. <\/p>\n<p>Making RPG&#8217;s is a tough gig.  Hats off to any developer willing to endure the grueling process of developing a game so fans like me can look at their efforts and go &#8220;<a href=\"?p=1317\">meh<\/a>&#8220;.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rampant Coyote followed up to my earlier posts on this subject. Mr. Halbert had more thoughts on this as well. (And while I&#8217;m thinking about it: I check Technorati for incoming links. Technorati is sometimes capricious and unpredictable. 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