Spoiler Warning S5E6: Bonnet Get!

By Mumbles Posted Wednesday Apr 13, 2011

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Yeah, yeah. We got the bonnet.

I feel like one of the boys should be making this post since they are soooo much more concerned about clothing than I am. I spend about five minutes tops on the character creation screen and even less time caring what my character is wearing. Meanwhile, the Spoiler Warning boys spend like twenty minutes on average making their character look pretty from the get-go. Just imagine Josh holding two bonnets up in a mirror saying, “This one? Or thiisss one?” for six hours and you have a good idea of what playing Guild Wars with him is like.


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192 thoughts on “Spoiler Warning S5E6: Bonnet Get!

  1. Piflik says:

    I also spend much time on the character creation, but that time is mostly spent coming up with a name…

    1. Mumbles says:

      I typically use “Moxie” or “Ripley” every time.

      1. Piflik says:

        I mostly try and find a unique name for each character and that’s not limited to different characters in a single game…kinda crazy when I think about it…not sure why I do it…maybe it helps me better connect to my character…

        1. Kelly says:

          I just slap my own helpfully unisex name on any given character then go out to swindle, loot, and murder my way through whatever game I’m playing.

          1. Sydney says:

            She’s going to kill you for that. Know it and beware.

          2. Daemian Lucifer says:

            Kelly shepard and kelly chambers fan-fic.Lets see how long it will take someone to write it.

            1. Someone says:

              Oh please. I bet the fans have already done Shepard/Harbinger.

              1. X2-Eliah says:

                “I know this hurts you, Shepard” *Harbinger cheating on Shep with K. Chambers..

      2. Deadpool says:

        Celaeno is my usual pick… I tend to play female characters when given the choice.

        No idea why…

      3. RTBones says:

        I typically use “Jo Tomate” (pronounced joto mat eh). In Japanese, it means “just a minute.” Joe Tomatoes also gets used now and again.

        1. Ehhh…I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but…

          Your Japanese phrase is actually spelt “Chotto Matte”! It’s pronounced “Choh-toh Mah-tey”, and literally means “Small wait”. Either part of the phrase can be used by itself to mean the same thing (“Ey! Chotto!”), and sometimes ‘kudasai’ is added at the end for extra politeness.

          Sorry to be ‘that guy’, but the more you know and all that ;)

          1. X2-Eliah says:

            And this is why you never get a tattoo in Chinese/Japanese.

            1. Gildan Bladeborn says:

              You never know when somebody might decide to pull a “Chinese Takeout Menu prank on you!

      4. Michael says:

        I do the same exact thing.

        Male character? Isaac.

        Female character? Renee.

      5. swimon says:

        For Fallout games I always go Marie or Pierre Curie, seems fitting.
        Although I guess Oppenheimer could work too.

      6. Mailbox says:

        First character is always my real name.
        My second character was : Mojave (female)
        Third character : Vegas (male)

    2. Peter H. Coffin says:

      Heh. I spent … probably three hours working up two characters for Rockband 3 over the past two days. These aren’t even career-mode people, just the guitar and bass players for the quickplay set. Neither of them even have tattoos yet; that’s probably going to be a few more hours fussing with the artwork. It’s not even about making someone “pretty”, but it’s about making characters interesting and whole. Robinette comes from money, and she doesn’t wear shabby things. She’s modest enough to stick to subdued colors most of the time with only accent colors and accessories being bright or vibrant. This also means that she tends to wear things that cover skin. She hides behind her haircut and glasses, but the glasses are wire-framed and subtle as well. Jessica’s more out there, with a stripey mix-and-match style, contrasting makeup, and her hair’s colored as wild a red as she can manage and still keep her day job, all as some kind of compensation for her shortness and slight frame. I’ve got about an hour’s worth of thinking about who I’d like for a drummer and the singer, and haven’t even started working on them.

      Guess it comes down to what one wants to make out of the game, neh? How many people play Sims just to build houses? 30-40%?

      1. theLameBrain says:

        I played the sims once.
        I built two characters, roommates.
        One was sloppy and care free, one was OCD-tidy.

        I cheated to have unlimited wealth. Built a huge house and filled it with everything. The carefree one had run of the house, playing with whatever he willed. The tidy one i kept in an oubliette and slowly tortured with the accrual of filth and extreme neglect. When the neighbors invited themselves over to play wiht all the cool stuff, I would release him like a pit-bull sicced on burglars.

        Eventually the tidy one died. He was alone, ignored, and broken. He was made wealthy beyond the dreams of most mortals but was unable to enjoy any of it because of the whimsy of a cruel god. He died in the dark and a pool of his own ick.

        His roomate changed the channel and idly wondered what the smell was.

        I may be too dark to for this game…

        1. Mari says:

          My kids and I do that to our Sims all the time. For me, Sims is part home designer and part torture chamber. My favorite pastime in Sims is to build a house with no furniture except an espresso machine and see how long it takes the Sim to lose control of all body functions.

          1. Deadpool says:

            I can’t play the Sims properly. I end up treating it like an RTS or something: my Sims aren’t people, they are machines with the purpose of gathering resources. I did build a nice house… Well, three houses in one lot. Had to do something with all that money…

    3. DanMan says:

      I typically take the R.A. Salvadore path: Slap the keyboard and hope enough vowels pop up.

  2. Nyaz says:

    Hey, looks are important! I spend an average of 20 minutes on character creation screens… although probably a little less on the ones in Bethesda games because you’ll end up looking like someone punched you in the face with a Power Fist either way.

    Also, raise your hand if you’ve ever picked a prettier armor piece over one with better stats because it looked prettier… *raises hand*

    1. Piflik says:

      *raises hand* NCR Ranger Vet Combat Armor looks just too cool :D

      1. Irridium says:

        Shame about how it disguises you as an NCR trooper… and occasionally resets your reputation with people.

        Ah well, thats what mods are for :D

        Before I found that, I’d go around in the re-enforced leather armor. Because that, matched with sunglasses and a desperado hat(which I never take off, ever), and a magnum(Ranger Sequoia) make me the badass of the wasteland.

        1. Someone says:

          I like how the Ranger armor counts as a disguise, but no one bats an eyelash on the brotherhood and remnant armor.

    2. JPH says:

      -raises hand- I went through the entire endgame sequence with a duster coat. And I would not recommend it.

      1. Lisa says:

        My character tends to go around in “Sexy sleepwear”. I was disapointed that Veronica didn’t want to join in so we could strut the Strip!

    3. some random dood says:

      For those who think appearance is important, I think Shamus got it covered in this one: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/stolen-pixels/6879-Stolen-Pixels-150-2-Shoes-of-Floppiness
      (Dragon Age: flipping the bird at style gurus at every chance.)

      1. Nyaz says:

        Aaagh, Dragon Age was horrible in this regard. No matter what I did, my poor dudes looked awful. The only armor that looked good was the Blood Dragon armor and maybe King Cailan’s armor if you had that DLC…

        All mage hats (= dunce caps) were so horrible I told my mages they weren’t allowed to wear hats. Ever.

        1. krellen says:

          Thankfully, DA2 added the ability to turn off helmets.

          1. Sleeping Dragon says:

            I was about to say that while I do spend an insane amount of time tweaking the looks of my character (seriously, the sim generator was like a game unto itself for me) I don’t give up good armour because of its stupid looks but then I read this. Long story short if the option to make headwear invisible wasn’t in the first DA it means that my entire team was walking around without it since I remember always being able to see their faces and hair.

    4. Milos says:

      *raises hand* I do it too. I used to be all about min-maxing until I realized that 9 games out of 10 don’t really call for that kind of concern so now I almost always go for style over substance.

      Rage vent: Grrrr for some reason I can’t watch embeded videos, it always displays “An error occurred, please try again later” so I have to go to YouTube to watch the videos directly and it doesn’t matter if I change browser. /kicks a pebble

    5. McLokast says:

      *raises hand*

      “ED-E get over here, I’ve got some more stupid power armor for you to carry”.

      Leather armor and Goggles helmet look so nice together, and you can wear sunglasses with the Goggles helmet, so it looks like you have tinted goggles.

      Also, because I am inexplicably obsessed with how many goggles I can get on my character at the same time.

      Trooper Helmet + Biker goggles + Roving trader outfit.

      1. MrWhales says:

        I never trusted my colleagues like ED-E or Veronica to carry anything…. I tend to forget about it if it isn’t in /my/ inventory

    6. Fists says:

      *leaves hands down* I’m pretty much the opposite, wearing the space suit because its the best light armour I’ve found and I don’t have to get changed when in irradiated dens

    7. APerson says:

      Yeah. I killed a civilian to get a dapper gambler outfit, just because I thought my character would look adorable in a yellow halter neck dress. Missed the +1 agility bonus from “standard” causal clothes.

      Until I got Dead Money. Woo for Vera’s dress.

  3. Mari says:

    Why are guys like that? My husband is the same way. He spends up to an hour and a half on the character creation screen making a pretty character and has been known frequently to give up high-stat armor because it’s “ugly.”

    Meanwhile I slap together a character in about 3 minutes and the only thought I give to armor is which stat boost I want more. I could look like a blind Bozo the Clown and I wouldn’t give a flip as long as I could gun/slice/club my way through waves of enemies. My only concession to vanity in a game is that if given control of a boob slider, I’ll generally go ginormous and if given hair color options you can bet it’ll be red. Those two together take about 15 seconds to do. Then it’s time to go kill things and amass money to buy armor and weapons to kill more things.

    1. Mumbles says:

      Word. I always go big boobs and black hair.

      1. X2-Eliah says:

        Interesting. Seems like guys have more problems with big boobs in games than girls do.

        1. Mari says:

          I’ve noticed that, too. Similarly, more of the men I know have their “feminist” sensibilities offended by the blatant stereotyping of women in video games than the gamer girls I know.

          Personally my theory on breasts is that in a world where gravity doesn’t exert an influence on the human body beyond holding it to the ground, why WOULDN’T you want tremendous ta-tas? I find them hugely (no pun intended) entertaining in video games. Then again, I’m the chick who has been known to mess with the camera in certain games just to watch the female characters in front of me walk and/or climb. What can I say? I’m just lascivious that way.

          1. Khizan says:

            The only time a female character’s boobs have bothered me in a video game was Bethany in Dragon Age 2, in the start of the intro, where they just seem to be ludicrously “stuffing her bra with volleyballs” big. The rest of the game, I don’t notice it or care. Isabela’s supposed to dress like a pirate stripper; she’s Isabela. And the game doesn’t really put Bethany at anymore angles that make their size so noticable.

            And it’s not that I’m outraged at their portrayal of women. It’s an aesthetic thing. They’re not proportional.Also, I am vaguely insulted by the way it feels like the game company is saying “Let’s make her tits gigantic, guys will love that”.

            1. Deadpool says:

              Bethany’s boobs were huge in the tutorial because that was the “fantasy” version of the story The embelished legend. It was a joke.

              Isabella’s huge boobs are worse because they are a) “real” and b) she had a B cup in Dragon Age I…

              Although the wrose chest in DA2 was Flemeth’s… Ewwwww…

          2. theLameBrain says:

            Lets be honest.
            If a game gave your male characters a “groin size” slider, most guys would play with that maxed.

            I’m sure the boob-slider is the same thing for women.

            1. Kelly says:

              Personally I would shrink my guy character’s dick down and roleplay him with a massive inferiority complex to go with the inevitable kleptomania and bloodlust.

          3. Sleeping Dragon says:

            Well, I tend to get all pissy when the designers do all they can to rub the character’s cleavage all over me (sometimes, in case of my character, literally) but it’s not so much the “feminist sensibilities” as it is the gay thing. Like I go talk to a female character and her face is actually in the corner of the screen so that her boobs can be put in the frame while we talk and she is suffering heavily from the “ridiculous armour” syndrome. I also tend to groan at the obligatory love interests in this way.

        2. Zukhramm says:

          I wouldn’t say I have a problem with it, but when I control the slider, it’s not goign to go to max.

        3. drlemaster says:

          I think some of us guys may have a problem with this:

          Girl: Move this slider all the way right… I can pretend I have big boobs.

          Guy: Move this slider all the way right… I’ll be in my bunk.

          1. Mari says:

            The thing is, it’s not really about pretending to have big boobs for me. I mean, aside from the gravity thing I mentioned, I got my share and possibly a couple of other people’s share as well in the breast line. I’m more than satisfied with what God/life/the gene pool has dealt me in the chesticle department.

            For me, video game characters with huge melons is more of an aesthetic choice. I tend to make all my characters pretty similar in appearance and I suppose it could be said that all of them are “my type.” Tall, busty redheads with wide, inviting hips. Huge, hairy fellows in glasses that look like Grizzly Adams with a nerd complex (or possibly Unix programmers). And yes, the latter describes my husband and the last 5 guys I dated before him. It’s still a matter of bunk time. I’m apparently just less picky about who I’ll bring to the bunk with me.

      2. HerrSunk says:

        Women and boobs. What’s up with that?

        I’ll lead myself out.

    2. Deadpool says:

      I would LIKE to make my girl slightly attractive, but it never, ever, ever works out…

      I AM partial to red hair though…

      edit: Forgot the first half which is, despite being a guy, I DON’T go for the ginormous boobs… I tend to like my warriors to be lethe and reasonably proportional…

      1. Eddeman says:

        Ah yes, lovely redheads. I always go for it whenever possible. And as you said most times messing with the face just creates something horrible. My FemShep didn’t turn out too bad though… from certain angles :P


        Only thing that really bothered me was that part of the hair clips through the forehead :(

    3. JPH says:

      That isn’t a gender thing, that’s just a personal thing. I know girls that spend lots of time tweaking their character appearances, and most of the guys I know guys don’t care about how their characters look.

    4. AbruptDemise says:

      I do spend quite a bit of time in the character creation screen, most of it in the looks and about half of that coming up with a good name. While I will min/max as much as I can, I try and avoid adjusting the face sliders in character creation. Mostly because I end up making my character’s face look like the Uncanny Valley version of what I wanted.

      As for passing up better stats for looks, it really depends on the game. If it’s my first playthrough, stats always come first. Once I find out what will work for me, I usually try and find the best-looking gear that’s still viable. Sometimes I give up stats for looks if the stat improvement is really minor.

      That said, the way your player character looks is an important factor, and can add a dimension of fun and immersion to a game. I’m still in the middle of a couple of ‘helmet-less’ runs of Dragon Age (which will probably be forever incomplete, since the game keeps crashing on me).

    5. Zukhramm says:

      Because it’s manly.

    6. Daemian Lucifer says:

      Thats because you spend so much time picking your clothes in real life,while we just put on whats handy.

      Joking aside,I usually play with the character screen a bit the first time I play the game,and go with the default other times.So its not really that universal.

      1. Mari says:

        LOL I thought about that. Of course, the reality is that I just throw on whatever clothes I grab in the dark, whip a brush through my hair, and then pull it into a ponytail or clip. I’ve never been a girly-girl. I turn 34 on Friday and I got my FIRST manicure ever last week. It’s about to drive me crazy because my fingernails are beyond the fingertip by about 1/8″ and it’s screwing up my life. I don’t know how most women survive between the makeup and the fingernails and the curling irons and blow dryers and uncomfortable underthings and whatnot.

    7. Jarenth says:

      Throwing one on the pile: I too have been seen ignoring the ‘better’ armor, stat-wise, for the better-looking one.

      In RIFT, I recently had to choose between wearing hand-crafted and colour-matching shoulder pads that looked like actual decent shoulder pads, or stat-carrying rare items that looked like my character had stapled some plastic dinner plates to his arms. I can’t even pretend that was a hard choice.

  4. Patrick the Apathetic says:

    I’m not sure why it matters when no real person actually sees you, and it has no change on gameplay. It would be like altering your ability to type 80 WPM or juggle 4 basketballs. It doesnt matter….. meh

    1. dyrnwyn says:

      One real person will see you. You, And that’s all that matter.

      1. Someone says:

        Most games have you staring at your character’s armor clad rear throughout the adventure, so I don’t obsess over it. In Fallout (3, NV), however, you get quite a few chances to look at your mug as you mow down punks in Vats, and I try to make my character look cool while doing it.

        Of course, the terrible facial animation doesn’t help, but whatever, the best look on your face is the look of a Remnant Power Helmet anyway.

  5. James says:

    Did i just hear that you play Guild Wars, seriously that game seams to have disappeared form the public eye, despite the fact GW2 is comeing, it a great MMO and is free to plat online. i really need to get back into that game.

    1. HeroOfHyla says:

      It got too grindy to me around level 12.

  6. Kelly says:

    I am honestly stunned you all bothered to pay the old lady for your Novac Room given that you get it for free if you complete Boone’s recruitment quest right then talk to… Cliff I think the Dino Store’s owner is.

    Incidentally which companions (if any) will Cuftbert be picking up this time? I can see this going the Legion route if the goal is to show off bits the player wouldn’t normally see (most players hating the Legion), so it could just as easily be “none” since everyone but Rex, Ed-E, and maybe Lily despise the Legion (Boone would actually try to outright murder you if you side with them I believe, not that I’ve tried it myself).

    1. Irridium says:

      I don’t think you’d be able to, since he automatically kills any legion guy he see’s. Which I would be angry about, but hey, he did warn me…

      1. Kelly says:

        Oh obviously you can’t do it while he’s with you, but I know for a fact he got pissy when I told him to wait while I went down to visit the Fort on invite my first time around. Even when I told him that it’s all about sneaking in to destroy from the inside, he still gets angry, so I wonder what would happen if you REALLY helped out the Legion and came back to him.

        1. Piflik says:

          Boone attacks you, when you either do too much for the Legion or too much against the NCR. Arcade leaves you, when you side with the Legion. The others don’t care, AFAIK…

          1. Kelly says:

            I know that Cass and Veronica express understandable anti-Legion sentiments, but I don’t know how they react specifically because I’d never bother siding with the Legion because they’re IDIOTS.

            As for Arcade, can’t you sell him to Caesar?

            1. Someone says:

              Raul Tejada is probably the only person who supports the Legion in the entire game. He’s not a fanatic or anything, he just argues that the Legion isn’t as bad as most people paint it to be. His points are, of course questionable, but, given Raul’s experience, they make sense from his point of view.

              1. Kelly says:

                Right, he does mention Arizona being much worse before the Legion. On the other hand, he doesn’t necessarily SUPPORT them either, he’s merely saying they aren’t PSYCHOTIC, just harsh.

    2. Deadpool says:

      You can talk… Errr… The doctor guy (forget his name… Arcade? Gannon? I feel like he’s either an X-Men villain or a Zelda one… Or both maybe?) into being Caesar’s personal doctor. That’s always fun.

      1. dovius says:

        Arcade Gannon, actually, best of both worlds!

        1. Deadpool says:

          It’s amazing how oddly my memory works…

    3. Even says:

      Well you wouldn’t really know the first time you visit the town. It’s still only 100 caps, so it’s not that big of a loss if you don’t do the quest first.

      As for the factions, I’d find it hard to imagine for Reginald as a character to go anything but independent, given how stupid the Legion setup actually is. At the very least it just feels so awfully short-sighted for a supposedly intelligent and educated man so largely to ignore the benefits of modern technology, like medicine in favor of what is basically just a bunch of tribal housewife remedies, especially when it comes back biting him in the ass. The culture’s only focus seems to be on conquering the weak and everything just seems to be going backwards, as if the tribals he conscripts are too stupid to learn any better. The auto-doc and the few high-tech weapons are about the only signs of trying to improve anything, and even that’s reserved only for the cream of their society, and they still do jackshit to actually try to produce any of it themselves.

      It’s hard to imagine any other reason they’ve succeeded at anything in the Mojave other than the current inefficiency of the NCR.

      1. Kelly says:

        On the other hand, putting Yes Man in power is also a choice that, while seemingly in your favor, has a decidedly unsettling feel to it.

      2. Kojiro says:

        Caesar actually deliberately denies his people advanced technology, if I recall correctly. Part of his methods of controlling his own people. It does work, too, although there are some obvious problems.

        But yeah, Reginald doesn’t seem like a Legion kind of guy to me. His evil’s more indiscriminate and personal. Meanwhile, an Independent Cuftbert gets to be god-king of Vegas.

        On the topic of the Legion, if you guys do get Cannibalism, you have to get the Meat of Champions perk. That’d just be great.

        1. Kelly says:

          I couldn’t bring myself to eat The King or House. I actually like those dudes.

          And that’s far from the only thing about the Legion I find retarded.

          1. Kanodin says:

            I am now picturing Mr. House as a giant piece of beef jerky.

            1. Someone says:

              Ugh. Can you imagine what the guy tastes like? Much worse than 200 year old frozen steaks, I’ll wager.

        2. Even says:

          The big problem here is that only really worked when he was conquering the tribes that weren’t too advanced in means of technology. Now that he’s picking a fight with an actual nation of people with somewhat of a modern army, things have stalled to a standstill. He already tried to capture the Dam once knowing full well what he was up against and lost. Now instead of spending the intervening years trying to upgrade his army he just got reinforcements, somehow hoping it will make a difference. The deployment of the Frumentarii seems like the only reasonable adaptation in their tactics in general so far, fighting instead a war of attrition, which is still only possible due to the inefficiency of the NCR.

  7. Guvnorium says:

    Female quest givers, huh? Colonel Moore is female and gives quests. She’s the only one I can think of. Of course, I had lady killer and I don’t remember any special options with her…

    And nice Vietnamese crystal reference in the title.

    Reginald Bonet Bag F__k!

    1. Kelly says:

      Off the top of my head, there’s also Red Lucy and the ghoul woman in Vault 22. Also Pearl from the Boomers.

      1. Peachfuzz says:

        There was also a quest string from the boss at the caravan company, but I don’t know if there were any Lady Killer dialogue options.

        1. Kelly says:

          Ah yes Alice. Didn’t bother with that question chain because I like both Cass AND the Runners.

          1. Nyaz says:

            Speaking of liking Cass, there is also the woman who runs the Silver Rush, as well as one of the twins who bosses over the Atomic Wrangler.

            1. Kelly says:

              Oh yeah that debt collection quest you can do. Never finished that or the escort collection her brother gives you (I DID get Beatrix and FISTO though).

              As for the Van Graffs, I happened to visit them after picking up Arcade and was going to get him some stuff, only to accidentally speak to the brother, who promptly tried to kill Cass (INFINITE COMPANIONS). So then a huge fucking firefight erupted and I had no idea what was going on. We ended up slaughtering them all though.

              For my second character, Boone, Veronica, and I just went in and murdered them for easy money.

  8. Anjin says:

    Ha ha! I play female characters almost exclusively and I do the same thing.

    I wonder what that says about me.

  9. Kelly says:

    On the subject of faction armor, I honestly find very little use for most of it. Not that some of it isn’t GOOD mind you, but it has very limited use because of the system. Powder Ganger disguises get you shot by everyone. Most Power Armor in the game counts as Brotherhood aligned armor and will get you shot by the NCR (who control most areas). The Legion has similar problems, but the armor is even worse (and the best part is getting Caesar’s own armor, which can only be done by murdering him, thus alienating the one group that it would be useful to wear it around). NCR armor is really the only acceptable faction clothing.

    Also this game really makes me feel Shamus’ pain about stats vs good looking clothing more than any other title. I NEED the Combat or Power armor. I WANT to wear the suits (by the way, why are suits the only pre-war outfit that you can’t find clean versions of?) and dusters.

    1. Zukhramm says:

      I was going to make my own mod that made normal clothes more useful (something like -charism -agility on armor or plus to those on clothes, making sneaking and speaking more easy to use with clothes), problem is, I could not find a way to add an effect to multiple items at the same time in the GECK, making it, while not hard incredibly tedious and time consuming to do something like that.

  10. Starnick says:

    NCR Ranger armour is the best. I drag Boone around, so my group looks like an NCR posse.

    And mumbles, it’s about the coolness factor. It’s not so much looking pretty or going crazy over pink frilly dresses, as having a badass looking character. I spend a lot of time on the character creation screen because I want to get a character look the way I imagine would go with his or her backstory. But after that process is complete, I don’t really give my character’s looks much thought.

    1. Kelly says:

      Boone and I are beret buddies from the moment I get him to the endgame.

  11. Eric says:

    No offense, but do you guys have a problem with saying the word “gay” or something? I mean, Ruts spent like thirty seconds trying to dance around explaining Confirmed Bachelor. Just seemed a bit odd to me.

    Also, I’m pretty sure Far Cry 2 lets you burn… some buildings, but I don’t think you can really burn them *down*. It does however have a very cool fire propagation system built-in that lets you start wildfires on savannah grass, which will continue to spread depending on wind, elevation, etc. Battlefield Bad Company 2 is the other obvious choices as far as building destruction goes, and Crysis to a lesser degree (only small buildings, though).

    1. Peter H. Coffin says:

      “Enjoys the company of other gentlemen”, perhaps…

    2. Vipermagi says:

      FC2 has practically no enviromental destruction. Fire propagation was nice, though, but ultimately a little underwhelming (stops pretty fast).

      1. Irridium says:

        It actually burns away the grass and burns the trees. It is really sweet, but doesn’t last that long.

        1. dyrnwyn says:

          Minecraft has the best fire propagation system. I habitually burn down forests leaving my worlds burned out wastelands.

          1. Nyaz says:

            A word of advice: Don’t think “Hey, these trees near my house are totally obstructing my view. I know! Burning them down is faster than chopping them down manually!” when your house is built out of wood.

            And some trees are close to the house. A little too close.


          2. 8th_Pacifist says:

            You mean like Australia?

            1. Veloxyll says:

              Pfft, Australian trees are DESIGNED to catch on fire (seriously. Some of the trees seeds won’t germinate unless they’re subjected to high temperatures, such as those found in bushfires)

    3. Mari says:

      In their defense, it’s been my experience that no matter what word I use to describe people of non-hetero sexual preferences there’s somebody out there who is offended by it. Apparently the word “homosexual” now has religious connotations to some while “gay” is objectionable because young people have picked it up as a sort of slang for “lame.” Any time I use the word “bi” I’m informed by some militant person or other that bi is just a homosexual who isn’t ready to come completely out of the closet. And “queer” is acceptable to the 5% of the population who proudly declares that to be their orientation but very derogatory to the rest of the world. So I personally tend to avoid using any word for orientation until the person with whom I am conversing uses it first.

      1. Christopher M says:

        And that, milady, is (one of many reasons) why political correctness is a bunch of gosa: Good luck trying to please ONE angry group of Unique Individuals ™, let alone all of them.

      2. TheDefenestrator says:

        When I was in the GSA, there was one adviser who didn’t like the word “homosexual” because he thought it implied it was a pathology. The others didn’t really care.

        “Gay” is probably the standard terminology, after all it’s in all the acronyms. Although as a general rule, if you know what someone prefers to be called, it’s polite to stick to that term.

    4. Nyctef says:

      I thought Ruts was dancing around the word for comedic effect .. well, I found it funny at least ;)

      1. BenD says:

        I thought they were just following the GAME’s dancing around it, since the way the game describes the perk could make it sound – to anyone young enough to have no other association with the phrase ‘Confirmed Bachelor’ itself – like he’s just One Of The Guys. A good ol’ boy in training.

    5. Rutskarn says:

      Not really, no. Gay. Gay. Gaygaygaygaygay.

      I “danced around” saying it because that’s what the perk descriptor does. In keeping with the vaguely-50s-sensibilities tone of the game’s official text, it uses “Confirmed Bachelor,” which is a pretty funny and historically appropriate euphemism that manages to get the point across without even obliquely referencing homosexuality. So, in being vague, I was kind of referencing that.

      It’s actually one of my favorite perks for two reasons. 1.), it’s mechanically very sound, and 2.), it makes for a more interesting character. Besides Mad Max, the idea of an openly gay (or even euphemistically gay) badass wastelander is almost completely unexplored.

      1. Grag says:

        Wow. I didn’t even get that was what confirmed bachelor meant listening to this.

        How queer. I’ve never looked at the trait, apparently.

      2. Someone says:

        I love how Confirmed Bachelor acts as your personal “gaydar”, letting you discover new depths in old characters you thought you knew.

        It’s really fun to play without it the first time, and then use it on one of the subsequent playthroughs: “Major Knight?! Wow! I’ve had NO IDEA.”

        1. Kelly says:

          Well the military is a traditionally conservative place ya see. There’s nothing illegal about having good “friends,” but…

      3. Khizan says:

        One interesting thing about the Comfirmed Bachelor and Lady Killer perks, as well as their female counterparts, is that the game will slant the gender ratio of the various organizations you face based on whichever of the perks you pick, so that one isn’t definitively better than the other.

        The thing is, the Legion is always 100% male(unless you’re supporting it as a female Courier, in which case it’s 99.999% male, I guess), and since 3 of 4 paths end up fighting the Legion for a lot of the game, Lady Killer is always “worse”.

    6. Slothful says:

      It took me way too long to catch on to that, too.

      “Wait…if there are two options for male and females, and one of them’s a ladykiller..and there’s an option to be a lesbian…”


      Reginald Cuftbirt doesn’t seem too be the type of guy to be getting with anyone though. If he’s not killing anything, he’s just not interested. Although Mumbles seems to want to make him into Jeffrey Dahmer.

      1. X2-Eliah says:

        Idk. A mustachio-ed guy wearing pajamas and a bonnet, with big affectation for guns & explosives, seems like the ultimate snuggle-daddy for a wasteland setting.

    7. Viktor says:

      Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction and Mercs 2 did pretty good destructible environments. Nothing was permanent, sadly, but you could trash just about anything manmade.

  12. Deadpool says:

    There ARE very few Lady Killer options here. I remember one of the Snipers in the NCR camp has one, I think Veronica has another. Christine has one or two as well (btw, what’s with the BoS and lesbians? Kinda coincidental), and I think another in the palce you guys are going.

    Overall though, pretty worthless perk.

    1. BenD says:

      Uh, yeah, kinda coincidental…

    2. Kelly says:

      You do know that Christine is Veronica’s old girlfriend yeah? So basically, it’s not a coincidence at all.

      1. Deadpool says:

        It’s not a coincidence that I ran into the two BoS lesbian lovers in the Mojave desert in the span of a week?

        1. Zukhramm says:

          Yes, but not as much as running into three of them would have been.

        2. Kelly says:

          Well that depends on how long you think the story is actually supposed to take place over. I doubt it’s as short as a week certainly.

    3. krellen says:

      I imagine Lady Killer is slightly more useful when doing a Legion run, simply because the NCR actually has a fair number of lady soldiers.

    4. Kavonde says:

      The elderly woman who runs the junkyard north of Novac has a Lady Killer option, too.


  13. Sekundaari says:

    Slashing with a bonnet and pajamas! This is really picking up.

    I shuddered when Reginald put the Cleaver away with his sleepwear on (after 12min) and it made this weird cutting sound… I don’t think he actually has a sheath for it, he just keeps it between his ribs.

    Why? Obvious Reasons. (Cause he’s Cuftbert.)

    1. Someone says:

      “KNIFEWRENCH! For kids!”

  14. dovius says:

    5 minutes tops? HA!
    I just press random a couple of times, give the guy the reddest hair possible (Because gingers are awesome), name him Dovius and the carnage can begin.

  15. Entropy says:

    Imagining Josh is hard when I have no idea WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE.

    I guess I could imagine Cuftbert doing it.

    Personally I just wear leather armour, sunglasses, and a pre-war hat. (Suave Gamblers hat in NV). That’ll do me for stylish.

    1. Michael says:

      Just imagine President (Theodore) Roosevelt doing it.

      He did set him as his avatar. There’s no reason not to imagine Josh as former president Roosevelt.

      1. Jekyll says:

        Actually, for some reason I can’t help but think of jamie from myth busters when I imagine Josh.

      2. Someone says:

        I didn’t know what Roosevelt looks like for a while, so I used to think it WAS Josh, maybe with a top hat and a black&white effect photoshopped for giggles.

    2. Deadpool says:

      My God… This post makes WAY more sense now that there have been some responses…

    3. Sleeping Dragon says:

      TBH I always think of Cuftbhe… Cuff… Cuth… Reginald C. when I think of Josh. I know how Shamus looks like, I know how Ruts looks like (though when I think of Ruts I kinda think of one of his sketches rather than any actual photo). But with Mumbles and Josh the picture that comes to my mind is how they are portrayed on the SW logo… While I’m sure that in case of Mubles it is some approximation I am pretty certain that Josh look exactly like that in RL.

  16. Hitch says:

    When Josh asked why was he picking up that camera, why did no one point out that it was so he could take pictures of splicers?

    Oh yeah, on the subject of vanity and appearance, I really like the perk “four-eyes” because it give me a reason to always wear glasses. I don’t know why I like my Fallout characters in glasses, but they just look better that way.

    1. Kelly says:

      Glasses look fine enough I guess, but my main reason for taking Four Eyes is it’s amazingly easy perception (which can be added to even further with Night Person and a hat), and the only real downside to it is I can never wear Power Armor helms.

      1. Josh says:

        The other problem is that it effectively lowers your base perception for the purposes of perception related perks, so unless you had absurdly high perception to begin with, you’ll probably need to put some points into it with intense training anyway. Or an implant.

        1. Kelly says:

          Well it was good for my sniper character since he had 7 to start with. +1 from the hat +2 for the glasses, nice and simple.

          Doesn’t matter so much for a melee or unarmed fighter since the only real purpose of perception at that point (unless I’m forgetting something as I type this) is the compass (which Ed-E can help with).

  17. Archaic says:

    every time i go to primm and run on that roller coaster i think of left 4 dead 2’s roller coaster climax event in dark carnival for some inexplicable reason.

    1. Someone says:

      I always think: “Wow, that rollercoaster must have been REALLY underwhelming!”

  18. Michael says:

    ~99% of my enemies are male, eh?

    Well, I often do create female characters…

  19. Piflik says:

    On a completely unrelated matter…are you planing on taking the Terrifying Presence Perk? I know it is kinda useless, but the additional dialog options seem quite Cuftbert-y…

    Telling Caesar that you will paint his tent with his guts, or Vulpes Inculta that you will ‘wear [his] head like [he] wears that dog’s’ seems fitting to Reggie’s demeanor…

    1. Deadpool says:

      Terrifying Presence’s only real use is at the end of Veronica’s quest… I love scaring the BoS into not fighting me.

    2. Someone says:

      Considering Reginald’s old exploits, appearance and demeanor, I’m surprised the game hasn’t given him the perk for free.

  20. Tse says:

    One question, can you use confirmed bachelor the same way as black widow regarding the meeting with the man in the checkered suit?

    1. Jeff says:

      He doesn’t swing that way.

    2. Rutskarn says:

      You sure? I was almost certain you could. Eh, well.

    3. Slothful says:

      Can you at least awkwardly hit on him? Seems like it might be interesting to be on the other side of that conversation.

  21. Integer Man says:

    The bonnet is king! Excellent episode.

    Kinda wish it was light blue, though.

  22. Guile says:

    Imagining Josh, Shamus and Rutskarn gathering around Reginald to make sure he looks juuuust right, like a fussy mother getting their kid ready for school (while Mumbles is in the back going, ‘Can we kill more iguanas now?’) put a smile on my face.

  23. Christopher M says:

    Well, I hope you’re happy, guys. I went out and bought New Vegas ’cause of this season of the show – thanks to you.

    Good thing it was only $20 new at GameStop. Incidentally, Steam is a bit behind on dropping the price of the game…

    1. Deadpool says:

      Not a price drop far as I can tell, but a sale…

  24. BenD says:

    I am pretty sure that, if you talk to him after Boone’s companion quest, the Novac shopkeeper tells you that you may as well keep the room in the motel (forever).

  25. 13 CBS says:

    Ah, the bonnet…

    Spoiler Warning Season 2 Episode 4: Megatons of Fun


    Shamus: Awesome.

    Josh: This is the best thing that ever happened to Reginald Cuthbert. Ever.

    Shamus: …he looks like Lulzy.

  26. LadyTL says:

    I played female characters exclusively in FNV because of the awesomeness that the Black widow perk lets you deal with Benny.

    1. Lisa says:

      Am I wrong to have reloaded a save game a couple of times to redo that particular ‘mission’? :)

      1. Kavonde says:

        Damn it. I had to abandon my current game and start up a new one as a female so I can see what everyone’s talking about.

        I’m honestly surprised there’s so much more Benny in the game than I realized; in my first playthrough, I just pickpocketed some keys, Stealth Boyed into his room, and dropped a grenade in his pocket. This time, I actually talked to him and had some fun with the Legion. And now I’m finding out there’s another direction for him to go. Man.

  27. Mailbox says:

    The easiest way to get NCR Ranger combat armor early is to become “Liked” with the NCR faction and get the NCR Safehouse from Colonel Hsu at Camp McCarren. The armor and helmet are inside.

    Colonel Cassandra Moore at Hoover Dam is a female quest NPC during the main quest line. She is part of “For The Republic Part 2” and your end game NPC for NCR.

    1. Ateius says:

      I did this, but then forgot all about it, and stumbled across the safehouse near the endgame. I was surprised that I had a key, and then stoked about the awesome NCR ranger armour (which I paired with my recon beret, of course) and wore it for the remainder of the game.

      This ended up causing the Brotherhood of Steel to be automatically hostile towards me when I visited them during the end sequence, so I ended up murdering the lot of them. But then, I hear their questline was tedious anyway.

  28. I know this has nothing with the ep to do but (well indirectly though voice acting) but…
    Did anyone see this? http://www.polygamerous.com/2010/03/10/the-voices-of-biowares-star-wars-the-old-republic/

    Also, due to the heavy story of The Old Republic, “TOR” may be the first Spoiler Warning “friendly” MMO, Cufthbert (how the hell do you spell that again?) the Smuggler maybe? ;P

  29. anaphysik says:

    Josh, I’m sure this would eat up more of your time in editing, but since this season’s credits (which are great) is a clip reel, wouldn’t you want to switch out the clips used every now and then when something even funnier happens? (I bring this up partially because it would be awesome to see the dynamite-hovering-through-the-duputy’s-torso VATS attack from last episode in the credits.)

    1. Nyctef says:

      The credits do change every now and again — it doesn’t happen that often though because groups of episodes are recorded and edited together. So we might see that clip pop up soon :)

      1. Josh says:

        Yeah, I’ve effectively dropped the “single credits reel” of the last two seasons and reverted most of the editing style back to the way it was in Season 2. So the credits will change periodically as we get more and better footage for them. I just don’t do it every week because it’ll probably take several hours to get it right.

        1. krellen says:

          I know it’s more work for you, Josh, but the updated credits reel really makes a difference, so thanks for the effort.

          1. Harry says:

            Amen! Thanks, Josh!

          2. Jarenth says:

            I too feel this way.

        2. Peter H. Coffin says:

          Three changes over the course of the series is probably plenty. So maybe every six weeks or so?

  30. Cody211282 says:

    The room you get in NoVac is permanent and what I used as my first house, but other then that and the Lucky 38 I never ran into another place I could use.

    1. Deadpool says:

      There’s a third you get from the BoS… Conveniently placed in a fast travel spot.

      1. Josh says:

        Doing the various casino quests will get you access to their “luxury suites” and the like, but they all suffer from the same problems the Lucky 38 suite does.

        1. Greenflash says:

          You can get a free legion house that is on it’s own fast travel spot. It also comes with a ton of free weapons like a sniper rifle and even a CHAINSAW! A FREE CHAINSAW!

        2. Kelly says:

          Personally I used some mods to add in warp points to the various strip locations. I also had all the safehouses (except the Legion and I THINK the Follower’s) unlocked, but I still use the Lucky 38 one because it’s a lot nicer to look at. Not all that important granted, considering I actually use it exclusively to pose my Evil Gnome and store Unique Weapons and Apparel like hunting trophies, but DAMN IT I WILL NOT LIVE IN A HOLE IN THE GROUND (unless it’s filled with robots that do my bidding or something).

          Also you can get the special suites from the Casino factions (Except the Omertas I think) from gambling there a lot, which I didn’t do the first time because my sniper dude had ONE luck, but with 10 my current gal has officially broken me of scooping up every single weapon I find and selling it.

    2. bit says:

      When you do the debt collection quest, you get a hotel room in the Silver Rush. It’s pretty shabby, though.

      1. Matt K says:

        Honestly I just took over the Police HQ on the way to Primm. Tons of storage and even a bed. Plus only 1 loading screen.

  31. Will says:

    On the subject of vanity, I always go for “four-eyes” because it gives me an excuse to make a Gordon Freeman look-alike.

    I don’t know what it is but I love playing as Gordon Freemen in the wastelands (Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas). Science, Melee, and Speech (Oh, the not-that-funny irony!).

    If only there was a crowbar in Fallout New Vegas.

    1. JPH says:

      I bet there’s a crowbar mod out there somewhere!

      Note: I’m not a mod freak. In fact, I’ve never installed a mod for any of these games. Way too lazy.

      Also, how awesome would it be if New Vegas had a gravity gun?

      1. Bubble181 says:

        I’m waiting for a Portal Gun, really.

    2. Peter H. Coffin says:

      I could have swore that a crowbar got picked up just this episode, now that I think about it.

      1. Peter H. Coffin says:

        Nope, it was another cleaver. Dammit.

  32. Johan says:

    I always use pre-made characters (the 10 choices NV and Fo3 gave you) because I’m never satisfied when I make one myself.

    Also, it’s actually pretty cool that now enemies will stop and take better weapons that their comrades drop, rather than charging in with whatever they’re equipped with.

    Also, what? No female enemies? There are a lot of female fiends, the NCR seems about 50/50, the only group of enemies that is skewed in the gender department in the Legion, which is for (I think really stupid, but whatever) story purposes.

    Ten minutes walking around an abandoned building? Are you sure you aren’t lost?


    Ok, I’m exagerating, but her skin was really blue, to the point that I honestly had Oblivion flashbacks when I first saw her.

    1. Deadpool says:

      I agree, the Legion’s stance on women is the dumbest part of the Legion.

      Every other “abhorent” thing they do can be argued as a nescessity to spread across the wasteland: The idea being that our civilization now, while an improvement, couldn’t handle an environment like the Wasteland (reminds me of a REALLY good short story by Niven, Pournelle and Barnes called “Locusts”. Highly recommend it). The uber violence, the slavery, militant attitude…

      But the misogeny holds NO PURPOSE other than villifying the Legion… Without it, they could almost seem like a viable choice (if he were also willing to keep high tech medical advancements at least).

      1. Kelly says:

        It doesn’t even come across when you talk to Caesar himself. He acts the exact same way to male and female PCs, and you can’t even really ask him what the purpose is. Everything else he actually makes a decent enough case for (though I’d still always side with House), but he doesn’t even MENTION it and you can’t try.

      2. Kavonde says:

        Not keeping the medical advances makes sense, though. As Arcade tells you, the NCR and BoA are having to face the reality that, sooner or later, they’re going to run out of medicine. Caesar having his soldiers learn to use traditional remedies (and just generally suck it up when they get hurt) is a pretty intelligent long-term plan. Plus, it means he can hoard what medical supplies the Legion finds and have them on hand for emergencies.

        As for the misogyny…ehh. It could have been justified by having plenty of female camp followers around the Fort and Cottonwood, with their “sacred duty” being to produce more warriors or whatever. But seeing as the only women you find around the Legion bases are slaves, well…yeah. Dumb and too mustache-twirlingly evil to be believable.

        1. Kelly says:

          Actually it’s pretty heavily implied that California is pretty much rebuilt, and quite capable of production (certainly in the weapons department). Meanwhile, the Followers go around telling people how to make these medicines with next to nothing, so they can’t be that hard to produce.

          1. Even says:

            They’re obviously not, considering even the Khans have the means of being a major supplier of various chems. And yeah, they learned from the Followers.

            Just for reference: To produce a single stimpak, you only need 1x Broc flower, 1x empty syringe and 1x Xander root.

            Which basically means that if the Legion could be bothered to get the know-how, they’d have easy access to a vastly superior healing item instead of the healing powder they currently use.

  33. Phineas Rhyne says:

    Someone else listens to Elbow!

    Well done, Rutskarn.

    1. X2-Eliah says:

      Another person has heard of it… Hipster cred: broken.

    2. De Zwits says:

      Dammit – beat me to it. I guess that makes Ruts our Seldom Seen Kid…

  34. CalDazar says:

    Really good points on the Houses.
    I was bugged by all hell by the fact I couldn’t fast travel to my suite.

  35. superglucose says:

    Your complaint about the quality of the art is, frankly, stupid. Back in ancient Greece, they had plenty of statues that were remarkably well proportioned that survived even to this day… and population densities approaching WW3 would be massively higher than they were back in the day.

    The idea that it’s “impossible” that the NCR managed to find at least one exceptionally gifted artist is ABSURD. I know Mumbles is in the great state of California, and I suggest she take a look at the California State Fair junior art contests. The entrants to those are under 14 years of age and are amazingly talented.

    I know you guys like to nitpick, but… really? At least nitpick things that actually make sense, rather than “how could the NCR possibly find someone who’s talented at sculpting?”

    1. Shamus says:

      You missed the point AND you were insulting about it.

      Straighten up.

  36. xXDarkWolfXx says:

    i honestly will spend hours in rock band going “this tattoo or thiiiiissss tattoo” needless to say i have a REALLY hard time finding people to play with me

  37. BadgerFrenzy says:

    Recently my friend introduced me to Spoiler warning. I have now watched all of mass effect, Mass effect 2, half of ME3, and all the fallout 3 seasons. Even though mass effect and fallout are some of my favorite games, I really enjoyed your walk through; you had very valid gripes, (Siding with Cerberus in ME2, Anchorage DLC, etc.) (How I hated the anchorage DLC)

    I have loved all the seasons I”ve seen so far, Now my circle of friends all watch this site when we play games together. Love your show, can’t wait for more.

    I will say you guys have made me want to play fallout 3 again and collect all the bonnets.

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