Comments on: Batman Vs. Batman http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635 Dork is the new cool Thu, 09 Sep 2010 09:03:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Geoff http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635&cpage=1#comment-93337 Geoff Wed, 07 May 2008 22:08:03 +0000 http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635#comment-93337 Yep, as you suspected, just read the YouTube comments section for a comment by the guy who posted this "trailer" comparison. He edited footage from the old movie to match the trailer of the new one. Yep, as you suspected, just read the YouTube comments section for a comment by the guy who posted this “trailer” comparison. He edited footage from the old movie to match the trailer of the new one.

]]> By: BeckoningChasm http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635&cpage=1#comment-93319 BeckoningChasm Wed, 07 May 2008 20:14:25 +0000 http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635#comment-93319 The 89 movie seemed (to me) somewhat hesitant, like it didn't really know how to do a Batman movie but wanted to try to do it properly. Tremendous, awe-inspiring look to the whole thing, and Danny Elfman's score was nicely Herrmannesque, but it just seemed like scenes stiched together. And yeah, the love story was totally out of place. Batman Returns, however, I think is a far better film than the others. Even Batman Begins, which I thought was good but left me cold. I admired the machinery that made it run but I didn't care about anyone. Returns, though, seemed like a very human story and that's the only Batman movie I own. Except for what I consider the best Batman film of all time: Mask of the Phantasm. None of the live-action ones, in my opinion, can touch that one. The 89 movie seemed (to me) somewhat hesitant, like it didn’t really know how to do a Batman movie but wanted to try to do it properly. Tremendous, awe-inspiring look to the whole thing, and Danny Elfman’s score was nicely Herrmannesque, but it just seemed like scenes stiched together. And yeah, the love story was totally out of place.

Batman Returns, however, I think is a far better film than the others. Even Batman Begins, which I thought was good but left me cold. I admired the machinery that made it run but I didn’t care about anyone. Returns, though, seemed like a very human story and that’s the only Batman movie I own.

Except for what I consider the best Batman film of all time: Mask of the Phantasm. None of the live-action ones, in my opinion, can touch that one.

]]> By: swcrusader http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635&cpage=1#comment-92814 swcrusader Thu, 01 May 2008 03:50:12 +0000 http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635#comment-92814 My brother-in-law and I join you Shamus in disliking the 89 batman. Both of us intensely dislike Nicholsons Joker who I thought was vapid, one note and not even remotely psychotic enough. It was fairly funny when my bro-in-law and I realized we weren't the only people in the world who felt this way about the 89 film, it was such a relief! My brother-in-law and I join you Shamus in disliking the 89 batman. Both of us intensely dislike Nicholsons Joker who I thought was vapid, one note and not even remotely psychotic enough. It was fairly funny when my bro-in-law and I realized we weren’t the only people in the world who felt this way about the 89 film, it was such a relief!

]]> By: Kevin http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635&cpage=1#comment-92813 Kevin Thu, 01 May 2008 02:54:11 +0000 http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635#comment-92813 Lanthanide: Have you ever read the V for Vendetta comics? The movie was good, I'll grant, but I really wish they'd gone with the darker tone and scarier V from the comics. And that they'd included the song! ("They give you masks and costumes and an outline of the story/Then leave you all to improvise their vicious cabaret!"). Search "vicious cabaret" on YouTube for a recording of it. Lanthanide: Have you ever read the V for Vendetta comics? The movie was good, I’ll grant, but I really wish they’d gone with the darker tone and scarier V from the comics. And that they’d included the song! (“They give you masks and costumes and an outline of the story/Then leave you all to improvise their vicious cabaret!”). Search “vicious cabaret” on YouTube for a recording of it.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635&cpage=1#comment-92812 Kevin Thu, 01 May 2008 02:51:25 +0000 http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635#comment-92812 I <i>was</i> a big fan of the '89 Batman, but then... I was six. It was <i>so cool</i> back then, before I'd really read any of the better comics. Nowadays... meh. It's a pretty good movie, but it just isn't Batman to me. Batman Begins, though... awesome. It helps that I have a huge man-crush on Christian Bale. Funny story about when I saw Batman Begins in the theater... as we were leaving, I overheard one guy complaining loudly to his friend that they got it <i>all wrong</i> by not having Jack Napier (the man who would become the Joker, at least in the '89 movie) kill Batman's parents! Just... wow. I have great hopes for The Dark Knight. I still think Jack Nicholson from twenty years ago could have made a more sinister Joker, with the right writing. But Heath Ledger looks damned good too. Looking forward to it. I was a big fan of the ’89 Batman, but then… I was six. It was so cool back then, before I’d really read any of the better comics. Nowadays… meh. It’s a pretty good movie, but it just isn’t Batman to me. Batman Begins, though… awesome. It helps that I have a huge man-crush on Christian Bale.

Funny story about when I saw Batman Begins in the theater… as we were leaving, I overheard one guy complaining loudly to his friend that they got it all wrong by not having Jack Napier (the man who would become the Joker, at least in the ’89 movie) kill Batman’s parents! Just… wow.

I have great hopes for The Dark Knight. I still think Jack Nicholson from twenty years ago could have made a more sinister Joker, with the right writing. But Heath Ledger looks damned good too. Looking forward to it.

]]> By: Lanthanide http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635&cpage=1#comment-92811 Lanthanide Thu, 01 May 2008 02:50:22 +0000 http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635#comment-92811 I was extremely impressed by Batmin Begins when I first saw it at the theatre, but I don't think it holds up very well to repeated viewings. I think part of it is that the 1st half of the movie is a bit of a mystery with this gang lord guy and Bruce Wayne getting all this training up in Tibet or wherever. Then in the 2nd half you find out it is all really related and that the gang lord guy was a very small pawn. Watching the movie again with this knowledge takes a lot of the edge off. Compare this to V for Vendetta, which I have now seen at least 15-20 times, and it has never really gotten worse, and each time I still pick up new details I hadn't noticed before. I was extremely impressed by Batmin Begins when I first saw it at the theatre, but I don’t think it holds up very well to repeated viewings.

I think part of it is that the 1st half of the movie is a bit of a mystery with this gang lord guy and Bruce Wayne getting all this training up in Tibet or wherever. Then in the 2nd half you find out it is all really related and that the gang lord guy was a very small pawn. Watching the movie again with this knowledge takes a lot of the edge off.

Compare this to V for Vendetta, which I have now seen at least 15-20 times, and it has never really gotten worse, and each time I still pick up new details I hadn’t noticed before.

]]> By: Avaz http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635&cpage=1#comment-92809 Avaz Thu, 01 May 2008 02:21:53 +0000 http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635#comment-92809 If they make a Batman vs Iron Man movie (because Hollywood bigwigs figure, "One works. The other works. Let's put them both together."), I'll officially stop watching movies forever. If they make a Batman vs Iron Man movie (because Hollywood bigwigs figure, “One works. The other works. Let’s put them both together.”), I’ll officially stop watching movies forever.

]]> By: Davesnot http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635&cpage=1#comment-92804 Davesnot Thu, 01 May 2008 01:19:17 +0000 http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1635#comment-92804 Just reminds me of Hollywood giving LoTR big awards for screen adaptation .. when the movie looks exactly like the animated movie.. who adapted what? Hollywood cares about money.. the first one worked.. why change it? Get a new crop of actors and make buckets of money again. Just reminds me of Hollywood giving LoTR big awards for screen adaptation .. when the movie looks exactly like the animated movie.. who adapted what?

Hollywood cares about money.. the first one worked.. why change it? Get a new crop of actors and make buckets of money again.

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